Here is the chat log for the meditation chat held today......near the end we kinda get off topic but that is what we love about the chat room....
[] 3:09 pm: how are ya'll liking the school, Jenine and Silver Rose
[Jenine] 3:09 pm: I've been very happy with everything so far. Everyone is real nice.
[] 3:10 pm: I am glad to hear that
[] 3:10 pm: I would like to begin with asking if ya'll are meditating?
[Silver Rose] 3:10 pm: It's great love all the chat rooms I have read abit on Wicca but it is better to talk about to make sure you understand
[Inkky] 3:11 pm: BOO lmao
[misstay71] 3:11 pm: ok i'm back
[] 3:11 pm: welcome Miss Inks
[] 3:11 pm: wb misstay
[Silver Rose] 3:11 pm: heya inkky
[misstay71] 3:11 pm: ty
[Inkky] 3:11 pm: Why thank you Miss Chi
[Inkky] 3:11 pm: wb misstay
[] 3:11 pm: I was asking if everyone is meditating or trying to meditate?
[Inkky] 3:12 pm: I can meditate sometimes but other times life just wont leave me alone lol
[misstay71] 3:12 pm: ty
[Jenine] 3:12 pm: I've tried meditating but my mind keeps wandering all over the place. It just doesn't want to stay in one place.
[misstay71] 3:12 pm: mm creag
[Silver Rose] 3:12 pm: I have been trying I do it about 3-4 times a week
[] 3:12 pm: mm Craeg
[Inkky] 3:12 pm: Hiya Creag ((hugs))
[misstay71] 3:12 pm: mm creag
[Alba Creag] 3:12 pm: ello all sorry am late
[Silver Rose] 3:12 pm: Heya Craeg
[] 3:12 pm: that is normal in the beginning, Jenine
[Jenine] 3:12 pm: Hi Creag
[Inkky] 3:13 pm: That is ok Creag it just means we ate all the goodies lol
[misstay71] 3:13 pm: lol
[] 3:13 pm: you have spent a lifetime teaching your mind to remember everything, now you want it to slow down and be still..
[Alba Creag] 3:13 pm: no sharing my irn bru then lol
[Jenine] 3:13 pm: How do you get it to slow down?
[misstay71] 3:13 pm: i try too meditate
[Inkky] 3:13 pm: If you dont mind Jenine what have you tried when you are meditating?
[Silver Rose] 3:14 pm: My minds been wandering but listening to relax/meditation music helped me
[misstay71] 3:14 pm: mm red
[Silver Rose] 3:14 pm: Heya Red Hot
[Inkky] 3:14 pm: Silver that is a great thing I also find that I cant meditate without music playing lol
[Jenine] 3:14 pm: I've tried the pentagram meditation and the other one with the old man. Than my mind keeps going to things I have done during the day
[misstay71] 3:14 pm: mm sea
[Inkky] 3:14 pm: Hiya Red ((hugs))
[Red_Hot] 3:15 pm: hello
[Jenine] 3:15 pm: Hi Red_Hot
[Silver Rose] 3:15 pm: I didn't think I would but I have very noisey neighbours
[sea willow] 3:15 pm: Merry Meet everyone
[] 3:15 pm: mm sea willow and lisa
[Inkky] 3:15 pm: Ok jenine have you tried a guided meditation? I find that helps out alot sometimes
[Silver Rose] 3:15 pm: Heya Sea Willow, Heya LisA
[Inkky] 3:15 pm: Hiya Seawillow ((hugs))
[] 3:16 pm: how long are you able to meditate without your mind wondering?
[sea willow] 3:16 pm: ((((Hugs))))) To you all. So Happy i was here to see the invite. I thought it was tommorow
[Jenine] 3:16 pm: I have in the past. They do work better but I need to find one that is shorter. After I wihile my mind starts to wander again.
[Inkky] 3:17 pm: Christopher Penzcak has a great one hun and there is a site I will find that has some short but great ones
[Jenine] 3:17 pm: Thank. I had read some of his books. He's really good
[] 3:18 pm: how do you try to reach a meditative state?
[Jenine] 3:19 pm: I put on some meditative music.
[Jenine] 3:19 pm: Than I try to relax
[] 3:20 pm: some do breathing...some count backwards...
[] 3:20 pm: music distracts me, personally
[Red_Hot] 3:20 pm: lol
[Alba Creag] 3:20 pm: I focus on a candle
[misstay71] 3:20 pm: i do it with breathing
[Jenine] 3:20 pm: music makes it a little easier for me
[Inkky] 3:20 pm: here is a site I just found lol that has alot of different links for meditations
http://www.meditations.com/
[Silver Rose] 3:21 pm: focusing on the beat of the music and my breathing helps me
[misstay71] 3:21 pm: mm polar
[] 3:22 pm: in the beginning if you are able to maintain for a minute or two you are doing well
[Silver Rose] 3:22 pm: Heya polarwolf
[] 3:22 pm: mm polar
[polarwolf] 3:22 pm: mm all
[Red_Hot] 3:22 pm: hi polar
[polarwolf] 3:22 pm: hello all
[sea willow] 3:22 pm: How can you stop from falling asleep. I myself can not even reach that state before I go to sleep
[Inkky] 3:22 pm: Hiya polar ((hugs))
[sea willow] 3:22 pm: MM Polorwolf
[polarwolf] 3:22 pm: hugs inkky
[] 3:22 pm: are you lying in bed to meditate?
[Inkky] 3:22 pm: seawillow when do you meditate?
[polarwolf] 3:22 pm: hello sea willow
[Jenine] 3:22 pm: I want to dedicate time at night to meditate but I'm just too tired when I get home from work
[sea willow] 3:23 pm: Usually at night when it is quiet. Some times durning the day when and if everyone is gone. I relax and brethe great. I just fall asleep and I try.
[] 3:23 pm: this is going to sound like a silly question...but when you do you shower?
[Jenine] 3:24 pm: I sometimes take a shower in the morning and sometimes before I go to bed
[Inkky] 3:24 pm: I personally find that if i try to meditate at night time after reading and doing some work that i need to do for this site I fall alseep so I have designated time during the day to meditate
[] 3:24 pm: maybe this would be a good time to meditate...with the element of water running over you...just a thought
[sea willow] 3:25 pm: I have tryed a alarm clock to wake me within 10 mins. But I am so afraid I reach the state of mind that the alarm is going to pull me from what I need to be at
[Jenine] 3:25 pm: So try to meditate in the shower? That might work. The shower does relax me
[polarwolf] 3:25 pm: inkky and chi i find that when i do my meditations i snore even though i am sitting up and doing my medations at dusk
[sea willow] 3:26 pm: I like your idea chiblue
[] 3:26 pm: I often do, Jenine it is a good experience
[sea willow] 3:26 pm: That would keep me awake. lol
[Jenine] 3:26 pm: I could try that first thing in the morning
[Jenine] 3:26 pm: Now I just have to tell the cats I need to meditate before I feed them. lol
[Inkky] 3:27 pm: polar have you tried a guided meditation????? as then you have a voice to tune into to stay awake
[Silver Rose] 3:27 pm: Me too think if I did it at the end off the day I would just nod off because I am that tired
[misstay71] 3:27 pm: i find i meditate better at night
[polarwolf] 3:27 pm: yes
[sea willow] 3:27 pm: Can you meditate looking at a candle. Does closing your eyes the only way to reach the meditaion state? It would be hard to imagine the pentagram or even the tree exercize
[Inkky] 3:27 pm: Jenine have you tried to meditate with the cats purring on your lap as purring cats have a calming effect on people and help in the meditation process
[sea willow] 3:28 pm: Where do I find a site for guided meditation?
[Inkky] 3:28 pm: Yes you can seawillow well i think you can anyways lol if you stare at the flame and think aboutit you will find that you will get into a meditative state
[Jenine] 3:28 pm: I had one cat who would settle in my lap but she passed away last year. The other two demand my attention
[] 3:28 pm: yes, many people do meditate by staring at a candle flame...you will find yourself drifting into yourself
[Jenine] 3:28 pm: One even paws me, claws out sometimes, to get my attention
[sea willow] 3:28 pm: I am up for ANYTHING!
[Inkky] 3:29 pm:
http://www.meditations.com/ there is one i just found I dont know if and what guided ones it has but check it out and you might find something that helps out
[Inkky] 3:29 pm: you can also do a google search for free guided meditations and see what you get
[Jenine] 3:29 pm: I'll check out that site and try the staring at the candle also
[misstay71] 3:29 pm: mm lady
[sea willow] 3:29 pm: Merry Meet Lady
[Silver Rose] 3:30 pm: Heya Lady
[Jenine] 3:30 pm: Hi Lady
[polarwolf] 3:30 pm: MM lady
[misstay71] 3:30 pm: mm lady
[] 3:30 pm: mm Lady
[Red_Hot] 3:30 pm: hi lady
[Inkky] 3:30 pm: Hiya LadyLucinda ((hugs))
[] 3:31 pm: we were discussing how to reach a meditative state. Lady
[LadyLucinda] 3:31 pm: MM Everyone.
[polarwolf] 3:31 pm: here is the one i use
http://members.tripod.com/~Synergy_2/meds/meditate.html
[polarwolf] 3:31 pm: for guided meditations
[sea willow] 3:32 pm: ew ew ew I found one
http://www.myinnerworld.com/index.html?j=tree
[LadyLucinda] 3:32 pm: I am new to meditating about a specific thing. I used to do a meditation where you just blank your mind completely and wait to see a blue swirly thing. That's it. I got up to about an hour, but meditating in a specific way seems much harder.
[] 3:32 pm: thank you polar
[Inkky] 3:32 pm: thank you for sharing polar
i had some great sites lol but they are on the computer still in cali LOL
[polarwolf] 3:32 pm: u all are very welcome
[polarwolf] 3:32 pm: lol inkky
[] 3:32 pm: thank you too, sea willow
[LadyLucinda] 3:33 pm: Thanks for the meditations.
[] 3:33 pm: what makes it harder, Lady?
[LadyLucinda] 3:33 pm: I have a question
[sea willow] 3:33 pm: You are very welcome. I am so excited now. Can not wait to try this. YEAAAA
[] 3:34 pm: ok, Lady..do go ahead
[LadyLucinda] 3:34 pm: Where does the line between self hypnosis and meditation end
[Inkky] 3:34 pm: now does anyone use any tools like crystals or incense or oil burners or anything like that when you meditate?
[sea willow] 3:34 pm: wow Lady that is a good one to ask
[sea willow] 3:34 pm: I use insense
[LadyLucinda] 3:34 pm: I don't use anything and rarely open my eyes.
[polarwolf] 3:34 pm: i use sandelwood stick incense
[Red_Hot] 3:35 pm: is incense the smelly sticks you burn???
[Jenine] 3:35 pm: I haven't used anything yet but would like to use some aromatherapy oils
[] 3:35 pm: yes, Lisa
[sea willow] 3:35 pm: lol Yes Red
[Red_Hot] 3:35 pm: lol... ok
[Inkky] 3:35 pm: meditation in my eyes is where your open up your sub conscious being and connect to the divine and hypnosis to me is when you delve into the sub conscious but dont connect with the divine
[Red_Hot] 3:35 pm: i use them... lmao
[LadyLucinda] 3:36 pm: I am taking Tarot classes and they give meditations. Is it better to try them all, or if you find one that really works stick to it? Great answer Thkky
[] 3:36 pm: I love pomegrante oil infusing...or sandelwood and vanilla oils
[Jenine] 3:36 pm: Mmmm the vanilla sounds good
[] 3:37 pm: once you have mastered one...it is nice to change up but not necessary
[Inkky] 3:37 pm: I personally would stick to one that you find work for you
and then if you wish at a later date try another one
[Alba Creag] 3:37 pm: I somtimes use oeum incence very nice and relaxing
[Alba Creag] 3:37 pm: *opeum
[LadyLucinda] 3:37 pm: I tried the pentagram one and I am dyslexic and have spatial relation problems and it seemed almost impossible.
[LadyLucinda] 3:37 pm: I love sandalwood and frankincense
[Inkky] 3:38 pm: I love love love wait for it lmao Dragon's Blood LOL
[LadyLucinda] 3:38 pm: Oooops, have to run. Sorry. This was great. LL
[misstay71] 3:38 pm: lol go figure inkky
[polarwolf] 3:38 pm: mm dragon
[Silver Rose] 3:39 pm: heya dragon lady
[Jenine] 3:39 pm: What does Dragon Blood smell like?
[sea willow] 3:39 pm: I know what you mean Lady. I concentrate on a feild of flowers then focus on a tree. I walk towards it and sit down.
[misstay71] 3:39 pm: mp and bb lady
[] 3:39 pm: mm dragonlady
[misstay71] 3:39 pm: mm dragon lady
[Inkky] 3:39 pm: LOL i know you never would have guessed now would ya lmao
[Jenine] 3:39 pm: Hey Dragond Lady
[polarwolf] 3:39 pm: bp lady
[sea willow] 3:39 pm: MM Dragonlady
[Inkky] 3:39 pm: Hiya dragonlady ((hugs))
[dragonlady1380] 3:39 pm: hi all
[Red_Hot] 3:39 pm: hi dragonlady
[misstay71] 3:39 pm: ooh never inkky
[] 3:40 pm: dragons blood is quite strong at least to me...
[sea willow] 3:40 pm: I have dragons blood oil. I never used it before. Can you put it in a slow cooker( I have a small one I use for that purpose)
[dragonlady1380] 3:40 pm: what is involved in the meditation chat
[Inkky] 3:40 pm: what Chi meant to say was that Dragon's blood smells ikky to her LMAO
[Red_Hot] 3:40 pm: ive never heard of it... lmao
[Jenine] 3:40 pm: I'll have to see if I could find a sample in a store to try
[] 3:40 pm: yes...you can do that sea willow
[dragonlady1380] 3:41 pm: mm EWWl
[misstay71] 3:41 pm: mm eww
[] 3:41 pm: walmart sells oils and diffusers
[Silver Rose] 3:41 pm: Heya EWW
[Jenine] 3:41 pm: Hi EWW
[sea willow] 3:41 pm: Merry Meet Eww
[] 3:41 pm: mm ewwlex
[polarwolf] 3:41 pm: mm EWW
[EWWlex362c] 3:41 pm: Hi everybody!!!!
[dragonlady1380] 3:41 pm: mm EWW
[misstay71] 3:41 pm: mm eww
[sea willow] 3:41 pm: WHERE Chi?
[Inkky] 3:41 pm: Hiya EWW ((hugs))
[Red_Hot] 3:41 pm: hi ewwlex
[] 3:41 pm: in the craft department
[EWWlex362c] 3:41 pm: It's good to be here!
[Jenine] 3:41 pm: Hi fiorghra
[Silver Rose] 3:41 pm: Heya Fiorghra
[sea willow] 3:41 pm: MM Fiorghra
[polarwolf] 3:41 pm: mm fio
[] 3:41 pm: mm Fio
[fiorghra] 3:41 pm: hey everyone!
[Red_Hot] 3:42 pm: hi fio
[EWWlex362c] 3:42 pm: mm fiorghra
[dragonlady1380] 3:42 pm: mm Fiorghra
[Inkky] 3:42 pm: hiya fio ((hugs))
[Jenine] 3:42 pm: I don't trust Walmarts quality.
[misstay71] 3:42 pm: mm fior
[] 3:42 pm: and they are reasonable too, sea willow
[fiorghra] 3:42 pm: big hugs to inky and chi
[EWWlex362c] 3:42 pm: Sometimes walmart can be ok
[] 3:42 pm: for diffusing they are good
[fiorghra] 3:42 pm: i missed you all
[sea willow] 3:42 pm: They used to have oils at Biglots
[Inkky] 3:42 pm: The oils at Walmart are good here for your oil burner as you have to add the oil to water
[Jenine] 3:43 pm: I guess as long as you are using it for scents only it would be ok
[EWWlex362c] 3:43 pm: Add water to the oils?
[] 3:43 pm: exactly
[] 3:43 pm: yes in the diffusers
[sea willow] 3:43 pm: That is what I have Inkky. Right now I have eucliptis ( Do not know how to spell that word) LOL
[Inkky] 3:43 pm: yes and that is all i would ever use them for as aromatherapy oils are completely different
[EWWlex362c] 3:43 pm: EEEEEEEWWWWWW!
[Silver Rose] 3:44 pm: Here in the UK I don't think we have walmarts but just pop into a pound shop they tend to have some good one and they tend to be buy one get one free
[fiorghra] 3:44 pm: sits in her corner reading a really good book on dreams and meditiations
[] 3:44 pm: wow I have not smelled eucalyptus
[EWWlex362c] 3:44 pm: Not with my cooking skills, anyway!
[EWWlex362c] 3:44 pm: Hey Icy!
[Silver Rose] 3:44 pm: Heya Mimi
[Inkky] 3:44 pm: LOL Well as I am aussie raised eucalyptus oil just dont do it for me lol it is a smell i never liked lol
[Jenine] 3:44 pm: If you use them for theraputic (can't spell) purposes you need the good quality oils
[Jenine] 3:44 pm: Jo Ocu
[Alba Creag] 3:44 pm: asda is Walart in the UK
[Silver Rose] 3:45 pm: Really?
[sea willow] 3:45 pm: It is a Minty kinda smell
[misstay71] 3:45 pm: mm icy
[] 3:45 pm: mm Icy
[Inkky] 3:45 pm: Hiya Icy ((hugs))
[Alba Creag] 3:45 pm: yip walart owns asda
[Red_Hot] 3:45 pm: hi icy
[] 3:45 pm: yum
[dragonlady1380] 3:45 pm: mm icy
[polarwolf] 3:45 pm: MM Icy Mimi
[sea willow] 3:45 pm: MM Icy
[Icy_Mimi] 3:45 pm: heya all
[Inkky] 3:45 pm: brb I need :java:
[Jenine] 3:45 pm: Have you smelled Vicks vapor rub?
[EWWlex362c] 3:45 pm: I always thought that eucalyptus smelled like ben gay
[EWWlex362c] 3:45 pm: Hi storm weaver
[sea willow] 3:45 pm: Yea Jenine it smells like that in a way
[Jenine] 3:45 pm: Hi Vicki and Storm
[Inkky] 3:46 pm: lol eucalyptus always smelled liked eucalyptus to me lol or like a gum tree lol
[sea willow] 3:46 pm: MM Vicky and Storm
[misstay71] 3:46 pm: wb inkky
[Jenine] 3:46 pm: I think they actually put Eucalyptus oil in Vicks
[misstay71] 3:46 pm: mm storm
[dragonlady1380] 3:46 pm: mm storm
[polarwolf] 3:46 pm: MM storm
[Red_Hot] 3:46 pm: hi storm
[Red_Hot] 3:46 pm: hi vicki
[] 3:46 pm: mm stormweever
[misstay71] 3:46 pm: mm vicki
[dragonlady1380] 3:46 pm: mm vicki
[Alba Creag] 3:46 pm: I thought it was menthol in vpaor rub
[EWWlex362c] 3:46 pm: m vicki
[polarwolf] 3:46 pm: MM vicki
[sea willow] 3:46 pm: HUmmm Gonna have to check that out. But the oil is alittle bit stronger to me
[] 3:46 pm: mm ciki
[Silver Rose] 3:46 pm: I'll have to pop to asda then we got a big one opened just down the road
[] 3:47 pm: *vicki
[storm weever] 3:47 pm: hallo everyone
[Silver Rose] 3:47 pm: Heya Vicki
[Icy_Mimi] 3:47 pm: mm storm and vicky
[] 3:47 pm: does anyone have any questions?
[EWWlex362c] 3:47 pm: Inkky, how is the move going?
[Icy_Mimi] 3:47 pm: vicki*
[vicki clarke] 3:47 pm: hello
[EWWlex362c] 3:48 pm: Are you all settled in yet?
[Red_Hot] 3:48 pm: i have one... but i dont know how to put it... lol
[sea willow] 3:48 pm: I use Frankinsense and also murrha oils or even sticks on a daily basis Pluss I burn sage
[] 3:48 pm: go ahead, Lisa
[Red_Hot] 3:48 pm: ok...
[dragonlady1380] 3:48 pm: what do we do in here
[vicki clarke] 3:48 pm: i love frankinsence, its so relaxing
[EWWlex362c] 3:49 pm: we talk and never shut up
[] 3:49 pm: we are discussing meditations
[polarwolf] 3:49 pm: brb
[dragonlady1380] 3:49 pm: oh
[Jenine] 3:49 pm: lol
[Icy_Mimi] 3:49 pm: umm i've been having trouble meditating, anyone has tricks on how to clear your mind?
[vicki clarke] 3:49 pm: what stones are the best to meditate with?
[Inkky] 3:50 pm: ok back now sorry about that
[sea willow] 3:50 pm: I use also soothing music.. And that is during the day
[Red_Hot] 3:50 pm: ive been having a hard time with life stuff... and it has made it hard for me to focus on anything... including meditation... is there any thing i can try to get it going....
[Icy_Mimi] 3:50 pm: mm hazeleyes
[Jenine] 3:50 pm: Hi hazeleyes
[misstay71] 3:50 pm: wb inkky
[dragonlady1380] 3:50 pm: i havnt really tried to medetate b4
[] 3:50 pm: amythest is a good general stone to use
[Red_Hot] 3:50 pm: or should i just forget it untill i get out of the rutt???
[sea willow] 3:50 pm: mm hazeleyes
[EWWlex362c] 3:50 pm: Exercise!! Try meditating after you've cooled down and showered.
[] 3:51 pm: Lisa, continue to try even if just for a few minutes...try the meditating in the shower or a bubble bath...
[Inkky] 3:51 pm: Red you can also try just staring at a flame of a candle and just concentrate on it and see how you go with that for a while
[misstay71] 3:51 pm: if i took a bubble bath and tried to meditate i would fall asleep
[fiorghra] 3:51 pm: im gonna go for awhile
[fiorghra] 3:51 pm: mp everyone
[Alba Creag] 3:51 pm: shower is a good place to meditate
[Icy_Mimi] 3:51 pm: i tried meditation music i found on the internet, along with incense, and pictures of nature nothing worked yet
[EWWlex362c] 3:52 pm: Yoga
[polarwolf] 3:52 pm: i am sorry but i have to go for now
[polarwolf] 3:52 pm: B*B all
[polarwolf] 3:52 pm: hugs and loves
[misstay71] 3:52 pm: mp and bb
[EWWlex362c] 3:52 pm: BB Polar wolf
[] 3:52 pm: mp polar
[Red_Hot] 3:52 pm: i have tryed in the shower... but i cant keep focus... baths are a little hard for me as i cant get in them or oout iof them myself... lol
[misstay71] 3:52 pm: hugs polor
[Alba Creag] 3:52 pm: I also find that when i a out walking the dog in the park at night i can focus on things in y ind better too
[Inkky] 3:52 pm: take care polar ((hugs)) and loves Blessed Be
[sea willow] 3:52 pm: MP Polar and thank you
[] 3:52 pm: icy...try counting backwards
[dragonlady1380] 3:52 pm: mm hazel
[misstay71] 3:52 pm: mm hazel
[hazeleyes] 3:53 pm: MM all
[EWWlex362c] 3:53 pm: mm misstay
[Silver Rose] 3:53 pm: Sorry I have to go BB everyone
[Red_Hot] 3:53 pm: hi hazel
[Icy_Mimi] 3:53 pm: counting backward?
[misstay71] 3:53 pm: mm ewwlex
[EWWlex362c] 3:53 pm: hazeleyes--hey--just like me!
[Inkky] 3:53 pm: Icy you can also try guided meditations also
[sea willow] 3:53 pm: How do you catch yourself before you get to the state of sleep. How do you know you have reached that mediation spot
[Icy_Mimi] 3:53 pm: interesting ill try that
[hazeleyes] 3:53 pm: Hey Red
[Inkky] 3:53 pm: take care Silver ((hugs)) Blessed Be
[misstay71] 3:53 pm: mp and bb silver
[Red_Hot] 3:53 pm: bye rose
[] 3:54 pm: I visualize numbers on a blackboard from 12-1 then count on down from 13 to 1...the first level take me to where I can still function like at rituals the other is my deeper meditative state
[Inkky] 3:54 pm: seawillow well for me I find that I know I have meditated cause I feel dizzy and need to ground yourself when you are asleep you just feel rested lol
[EWWlex362c] 3:55 pm: Good one Inkky--I think you hit the nail on the head
[hazeleyes] 3:55 pm: anyone read alester crowleys book on meditation and tried the techniques he suggested?
[Inkky] 3:55 pm:
[Alba Creag] 3:56 pm: I feel buzzed at the end of meditating never fallen aslee though
[Inkky] 3:56 pm: I am a handy little pet to have sometimes lol
[misstay71] 3:56 pm: lol
[EWWlex362c] 3:56 pm: LOL
[sea willow] 3:56 pm: Hummm Well I can do that. LOL I think what I do is breathe Really good. I mean I got it down pack that I am so rested I fall asleep. I want to reach the plane of seeing myself and be able to wake from it on my own
[] 3:56 pm: no, Hazel I am not too fond of Crowley's works
[Inkky] 3:56 pm: No hazel I havent as I dont like reading crowleys books lol
[dragonlady1380] 3:56 pm: its hard to relax just now for me lots going on plus the puppies to look after
[EWWlex362c] 3:57 pm: Haven't read any of Crowley's stuff
[sea willow] 3:57 pm: lol Innky
[EWWlex362c] 3:57 pm: mm calandula
[sea willow] 3:57 pm: But I am going to try that guided meditation
[Icy_Mimi] 3:57 pm: mm calandula
[sea willow] 3:58 pm: MM Calandula
[Alba Creag] 3:58 pm: what is guided editation ?
[Inkky] 3:58 pm: well instead of concentrating on your breathing hun if it puts you to sleep try concentrating on a visualization instead of your breathing and you may find that you wont fall asleep
[misstay71] 3:58 pm: mm calandula
[dragonlady1380] 3:58 pm: mm calandula
[Jenine] 3:58 pm: Hi calandula
[] 3:58 pm: it has sounds and a person speaking and guiding you through the meditation
[Inkky] 3:58 pm: Hiya calandula ((hugs))
[] 3:58 pm: mm calandula
[misstay71] 3:59 pm: never heard of that
[EWWlex362c] 3:59 pm: Many times guided meditation is done during yoga sessions
[sea willow] 3:59 pm:
http://www.myinnerworld.com/index.html?j=tree
[calandula] 3:59 pm: hi all
[Inkky] 3:59 pm: that is very true EWW
[hazeleyes] 3:59 pm: hi
[misstay71] 3:59 pm: hi calandula
[sea willow] 3:59 pm:
http://members.tripod.com/~Synergy_2/meds/meditate.html
[EWWlex362c] 4:00 pm: See----I can be taught!!!
[hazeleyes] 4:00 pm: any good sites on meditations then yall?
[Alba Creag] 4:00 pm: so like a relaxation CD ?
[misstay71] 4:00 pm: lol eww
[] 4:00 pm: yes, Creag
[sea willow] 4:00 pm: It is someone talking to you and guiding you thru
[] 4:00 pm: yes, sea willow
[Inkky] 4:00 pm: yes they do
[] 4:00 pm: LOL
[sea willow] 4:00 pm: *grin* see I am learning
[Red_Hot] 4:01 pm: brb
[misstay71] 4:01 pm: hb
[sea willow] 4:01 pm: :yeah:
[EWWlex362c] 4:01 pm: I have used relaxation CD's before with good results
[] 4:01 pm: wb Icy
[misstay71] 4:01 pm: mm mimi
[Inkky] 4:01 pm: wb icy
[sea willow] 4:01 pm: Guess what. I smoked for years and I went and got hypmotised and it worked
[Icy_Mimi] 4:01 pm: closed the chatroom when i clicked the link
[dragonlady1380] 4:01 pm: mm icy-mimi
[] 4:02 pm: ok Creag
[misstay71] 4:02 pm: mp and bb creag
[Inkky] 4:02 pm: ok Creag ((hugs)) take care hun
[EWWlex362c] 4:02 pm: I used that nasty gum when I quit smoking
[sea willow] 4:02 pm: lol Inky. right click on the link and it will ask you if you want to open in another window and click it
[hazeleyes] 4:02 pm: kk see ya then
[Icy_Mimi] 4:02 pm: ok
[misstay71] 4:02 pm: i bet we will still be here
[calandula] 4:02 pm: ko
[sea willow] 4:02 pm: opppps I mean Icy
[Inkky] 4:03 pm: ya never know we might have spontaneously turned into smoke or something lmao
[sea willow] 4:03 pm: lol lol
[misstay71] 4:03 pm: lol
[Icy_Mimi] 4:03 pm: lol
[sea willow] 4:03 pm: MM Alba
[EWWlex362c] 4:03 pm: Now that sounds like a REAL party Inkky!
[Inkky] 4:04 pm: of course any party i have always is a REAL PARTAHHHHHHH lmao
[EWWlex362c] 4:04 pm: LOL
[misstay71] 4:04 pm: of course
[sea willow] 4:04 pm: LOL When and Where?
[Inkky] 4:04 pm: here and ALL the TIME lol
[sea willow] 4:05 pm: YEAAAA Then I am right there with ya!'
[Inkky] 4:05 pm: ok but getting back to the topic lol
[calandula] 4:05 pm: PARTY xxwhat have i missed
[EWWlex362c] 4:05 pm: Count me in too!
[sea willow] 4:05 pm: LOL * chuckle*
[] 4:05 pm: does anyone have any other questions?
[Inkky] 4:05 pm: so do we have any other questions about meditation?????
[EWWlex362c] 4:05 pm: How does meditation work with spell casting?
[hazeleyes] 4:06 pm: yup
[hazeleyes] 4:06 pm: are there a few good sites for meditation in general that yall have found
[] 4:06 pm: meditation helps you to quiet your mind and to be able to better focus your intent and will in my opinion
[calandula] 4:07 pm: yes i cant my mind wondering do you have to be mind clear
[EWWlex362c] 4:07 pm: Should you meditate prior to, during, or otherwise to get the most benefit?
[] 4:07 pm: helps you to reach that inner aspect of you that can better cope with meeting and receiving messages from the divine
[Inkky] 4:07 pm: here ya go hazel
http://www.myinnerworld.com/index.html?j=tree http://members.tripod.com/~Synergy_2/meds/meditate.html http://www.meditations.com/related/chak ... oohUK7ClCk
[sea willow] 4:07 pm: Does it matter what insense and oils you use in different purposes Meaning to reach a different meditative state. Like astral P.
[Inkky] 4:07 pm: there are 3 that have been posted today in the chat
[] 4:08 pm: not in my opinon, sea willow...something relaxing..I also like lavender
[sea willow] 4:08 pm: Great. TY
[Inkky] 4:08 pm: there are however specific incenses that will add in astral travel and so on and same as crystals
[misstay71] 4:08 pm: i can't seem to do the astral p
[] 4:09 pm: you do need to be free of the mundane things of life to reach meditiative state, even if it returns to your mind, you need to push it out
[sea willow] 4:09 pm: How do you meditate to reach themessages from the divine?
[Inkky] 4:09 pm: ok can I ask everyone without offending what is it that interests people in astral travel?
[sea willow] 4:09 pm: Me eaither Missy
[sea willow] 4:09 pm: Miistay OPPPS My spelling is off today
[EWWlex362c] 4:10 pm: Planet Mars....I've always wanted to go.
[misstay71] 4:10 pm: it's ok sea willow
[misstay71] 4:10 pm: it was just in one of the lessons i did inkky
[sea willow] 4:10 pm: *smile* Thanks. Did not mean to offend
[] 4:10 pm: sea willow, by opening your mind during meditation, you are able to receive messages from the divine, your spirit guides and others
[misstay71] 4:10 pm: you didn't no prob
[sea willow] 4:11 pm: WOW. I am sooooo Confused now
[Icy_Mimi] 4:11 pm: is it true you can get hurt when doing astral traveling?
[EWWlex362c] 4:11 pm: Is there a difference between a deep meditative state and out of body experiences, such as riding the hedge?
[sea willow] 4:11 pm: Are there different states of meditation?
[] 4:11 pm: it does take practice and patience to learn to meditate to this level...but a bit at a time and you will soon be ther
[] 4:11 pm: yes sea willow there are
[Inkky] 4:12 pm: you can always ask before you meditate to be open to recieve messages from the divine and also if astral travel is what you wish for you can always ask for guidence for that also
[sea willow] 4:12 pm: Oh my. I am in level 3. Maybe that is why I am confused
[misstay71] 4:12 pm: is there a reason we do astral p ?
[sea willow] 4:12 pm: I have not reached that yet
[] 4:12 pm: we all began in the same spot, sea willow...
[EWWlex362c] 4:12 pm: Yeah...why do astral plane?
[sea willow] 4:13 pm: *Bummer* Grrrr I want to learn to fast and I gotta sloooow my bootie down
[] 4:13 pm: yes, that is exactly it, sea willow
[misstay71] 4:13 pm: yes don't get to ahead of your self sea
[Inkky] 4:13 pm: one thing we all have to remember is that is took us all our lives to gain the knowledge we have and to get to deep meditative state or even a light meditative state it also takes time and we all have to give ourselves the time to learn all of this as we didnt learn how to walk and talk and feed ourselves meditation is the same way
[sea willow] 4:13 pm: ok ok ok But I can be curious. LOLLOL
[] 4:14 pm: absolutely
[misstay71] 4:14 pm: is there a reason why we do astral p ?
[sea willow] 4:14 pm: Also trty not to get mad at yourself when you can not do it. Slow down relax and we will get there
[Inkky] 4:15 pm: yes so that our higher selves can see the other planes and also assist people in a time of need
[sea willow] 4:15 pm: I tryed to Astral p several times. I managed to see myself raise up and it felt wonderfulllll but something pulled me back and I have not been able to do that again!
[sea willow] 4:16 pm: I think it was luck .
[EWWlex362c] 4:16 pm: I'm afraid of heights, so I don't think I would like it.
[sea willow] 4:16 pm: That was YEARSSS ago.
[] 4:16 pm: things very much happen as we can handle them...so be patient
[] 4:16 pm: I don't like the feeling of astral projection
[misstay71] 4:17 pm: i gave up trying to do it because i couldn't get the hang of it
[EWWlex362c] 4:17 pm: I like to have both my feet securely on the ground!
[sea willow] 4:17 pm: Each thing we do we get braver and happier. I know I do. I am proud of myself. BUT I asl realize that I have to stand fast and make myself do things when I need to.
[misstay71] 4:17 pm: me too
[] 4:17 pm: it still happens occassionally, but I do not try
[Inkky] 4:18 pm: and people have to remember that most of the astral travel people do is when they ARE NOT TRYING to do so
[EWWlex362c] 4:18 pm: No broom ridin' for this girl!
[sea willow] 4:18 pm: LOL LOL EWWW
[misstay71] 4:18 pm: lol
[sea willow] 4:18 pm: I wanna broom
[Red_Hot] 4:18 pm: lol
[Inkky] 4:18 pm: LOL I love broom riding lmao
[Inkky] 4:18 pm: just TCL tells me off when i do it in the chat room lmao
[Red_Hot] 4:18 pm: inkky behave
[Icy_Mimi] 4:19 pm: i wanna broom too
[Jenine] 4:19 pm: I think I would like to float away for a while
[misstay71] 4:19 pm: lol inkky
[hazeleyes] 4:19 pm: for once in your life inkky behave
[] 4:19 pm: anyone drink chamomille tea befor meditating?
[EWWlex362c] 4:20 pm: Nah! Let her be!
[misstay71] 4:20 pm: inkky doesn't know how to behave she wouldn't be inkky if she did
[hazeleyes] 4:20 pm: true
[EWWlex362c] 4:20 pm: I happen to adore chamomille tea!
[Inkky] 4:20 pm:
[Red_Hot] 4:20 pm: ha ha... i know
[sea willow] 4:20 pm: I haven't. I love tea ( sweet) LOL and Rasphberry But afraid to drink the other teas cause I am afraid they taste bad
[] 4:20 pm: it helps to allow you to relax
[misstay71] 4:21 pm: i love tea
[Jenine] 4:21 pm: I can't get into drinking teas. I tried but don't seem to like it.
[misstay71] 4:21 pm: i don't drink coffee so tea is my thing
[Icy_Mimi] 4:21 pm: umm havent thought of it ill try that too love tea too
[Inkky] 4:21 pm: I am like you to Jenine tea is not my cup of choice lol
[] 4:21 pm: I like a bit of sugar and cream in mine..LOL
[EWWlex362c] 4:21 pm: I have one entire kitchen cabinet chock full of nothing but various herbal teas
[sea willow] 4:21 pm: ummmm BRB gotta go get my tea. LOL Forgot it downstairs.
[misstay71] 4:22 pm: no cream just SUGAR
[EWWlex362c] 4:22 pm: Milk and sugar for me!
[Icy_Mimi] 4:22 pm: milk and sugar in some, sugar in other and plain in a few
[Red_Hot] 4:22 pm: milk and 3 sugars for me... lol
[] 4:23 pm: alright, any other questions or topics?
[EWWlex362c] 4:23 pm: Don't forget the Lorna Doones!
[Red_Hot] 4:24 pm: ???????
[] 4:24 pm: well, I would like to thank all of you for coming and please feel free to stay and chat if you like...I must be off and fix some dinner around here..
[misstay71] 4:24 pm: what is that ? eww
[misstay71] 4:24 pm: mp and bb chi thanks for the chat today
[EWWlex362c] 4:25 pm: Is there a difference between deep meditative states and oput of body experiences? If so, what?
[misstay71] 4:25 pm: stands up and claps for chi and inkky
[] 4:25 pm: my pleasure...we will have another one soon
[Jenine] 4:25 pm: I have to go also. I must wake up the boyfriend so we could go out for dinner
[Red_Hot] 4:25 pm: bye hun xxx
[EWWlex362c] 4:25 pm: They are short bread cookies
[] 4:25 pm: mp and bb Jenine
[Red_Hot] 4:25 pm: thanks for the chat
[Jenine] 4:25 pm: Yeah Chi and Inkky:clap:
[misstay71] 4:25 pm: :clap:
[] 4:25 pm: I will post the log in the chatterbox soon too
[EWWlex362c] 4:26 pm: :clap:
[] 4:26 pm: mp and hugs to all
[Icy_Mimi] 4:26 pm: bye chiblue
[EWWlex362c] 4:26 pm: mm dethas
[Inkky] 4:26 pm: well as soon as I edit the chat log lmao
[Dethas] 4:26 pm: hi everyone
[Inkky] 4:26 pm: Hiya Dethas ((hugs))
[Dethas] 4:26 pm: I got the email lol
[misstay71] 4:26 pm: mm delthas
[Dethas] 4:26 pm: hi inkky, miss...
[Jenine] 4:26 pm: hi and by delthas
[Dethas] 4:27 pm: bye jenine
[Dethas] 4:27 pm: darn it too late
[EWWlex362c] 4:27 pm: ater Jenine
[EWWlex362c] 4:27 pm: I mean, LATER Jenine!
[Inkky] 4:28 pm: so are we happy to end the meditation chat or are there other questions ya'll have?
[Dethas] 4:28 pm: erm, I just got here lol
[EWWlex362c] 4:29 pm: Is there a difference between deep meditative states and out of body experiences?
[Inkky] 4:29 pm: lol sorry dethas
[Dethas] 4:29 pm: in my experience EWW - definitely
[Dethas] 4:29 pm: no problem inks
[EWWlex362c] 4:29 pm: mm Alba--welcome back!
[Dethas] 4:29 pm: hi creag
[Inkky] 4:29 pm: wb Creag
[misstay71] 4:29 pm: wb creag
[Alba Creag] 4:29 pm: ello a back
[EWWlex362c] 4:30 pm: What do you think the difference is?
[Icy_Mimi] 4:30 pm: wb creag
[Dethas] 4:30 pm: out of body experiences, are not meditative states...
[Alba Creag] 4:30 pm: ty
[Dethas] 4:30 pm: they are completely different
[Inkky] 4:30 pm: to me an out of body experience is not connecting to the divine but meditative states are but this is just my opinion
[Dethas] 4:30 pm: in my experience
[EWWlex362c] 4:30 pm: In what way?
[Dethas] 4:31 pm: there we go - inks has it
[EWWlex362c] 4:31 pm: Hmmm......I shall have to ponder this.
[Alba Creag] 4:31 pm: Is journying a meditative state as I meditate before journeying ?
[Dethas] 4:32 pm: journeying comes from a trance state rather than a meditative state as I understand it
[Dethas] 4:32 pm: the two are linked but...different lol
[EWWlex362c] 4:32 pm: Hmmm....more to ponder
[Inkky] 4:32 pm: well many people can have an out of body experience without getting into a meditative state hun and and out of body experience is like astral travel where as meditation is not astral travel cause you are using your mind and not your spirit self
[Alba Creag] 4:32 pm: I understand I usualy meditate to relax before Journing
[Dethas] 4:33 pm: meditation is a journey inwards.... journeying is reaching outwards to the otherworlds
[EWWlex362c] 4:33 pm: I don't know, I get some pretty powerful feelings when I meditate!
[EWWlex362c] 4:33 pm: You remember when I first tried that tree meditation!
[Inkky] 4:34 pm: I get alot of powerful feelings when i am meditating but I know I have not left my body to get those feelings
[Dethas] 4:34 pm: but EWW - those feelings are from within
[EWWlex362c] 4:34 pm: Perhaps I am ultra sensitive. It can really be a wild ride sometimes.
[sea willow] 4:35 pm: Ok I am Back. Gotta get caught up so I will be here reading
[misstay71] 4:35 pm: wb sea
[EWWlex362c] 4:35 pm: Not unpleasant....just like.....WOW
[Dethas] 4:35 pm: I agree it can be a wild ride
[Inkky] 4:35 pm: I can get powerful feelings in just doing mundane sorts of things like dejavu but i am not meditating nor out of bodying there either.....and please dont get me wrong i am not saying that these feelings mean nothing just i know that I can experience them also while doing neither of the topics we are discussing
[EWWlex362c] 4:35 pm: OK
[Inkky] 4:36 pm: i hope that made sense lol and like i said these are just my opinions
[EWWlex362c] 4:36 pm: Some of it does. We learn as we go though, right?
[Dethas] 4:36 pm: same here - opinions only
[Dethas] 4:37 pm: well, opinions and experiences
[Inkky] 4:37 pm: yes we do learn as we grow
[Icy_Mimi] 4:37 pm: well was nice talking with you all but i gotta head out, take care everyone hope to chat again soon
[Dethas] 4:37 pm: bye mimi
[EWWlex362c] 4:37 pm: BB Icy_Mimi
[misstay71] 4:37 pm: mp and bb mimi
[Alba Creag] 4:37 pm: One thing I have done is focus on me sitting on a rock which is focusing on me sitting on a rock and so on and I can get really deep within myself
[Inkky] 4:37 pm: Blessed Be Icy ((hugs))take care
[EWWlex362c] 4:38 pm: Interesting........I can see how that could work.
[Scheduled chat room: MEDITATION CHAT STARTING SOON!!]: Icy_Mimi has left at 4:39 pm
[sea willow] 4:39 pm: BB Innky
[sea willow] 4:39 pm: ICY
[Alba Creag] 4:39 pm: I can only do it for a short time as its hard to do but and I feel tired after dooing it
[Inkky] 4:39 pm: I also find sitting up against a tree helps me out also as I connect to the nature spirits when i do so
[sea willow] 4:39 pm: arghhhhh I can not type and read at the same time
[Inkky] 4:39 pm: lol
[misstay71] 4:39 pm: lol
[EWWlex362c] 4:39 pm: lol
[Inkky] 4:39 pm: Creag do you ground yourself when you do this?
[Inkky] 4:40 pm: I find sometimes i need to ground myself before i commune with nature spirits as they do drain me and I feel very dizzy and disorientated if i dont ground before i start and after i have finished and always have something to eat and drink with you when you do this
[sea willow] 4:41 pm: Got a question. Can you reach the meditative state within seconds and a min or so. Is it called grounding?
[Alba Creag] 4:41 pm: yes I ground and center and also go for a shower after which is my main place I can relax in I can send hours in a shower ( not that I am that smelly Lol)
[Inkky] 4:41 pm: grounding is when you release the excess energies you have in your body
[Alba Creag] 4:42 pm: I also visulise me clensing uin a shower and all the bad energies are washed away ( if that makes sence )
[Red_Hot] 4:42 pm: ok im finally back... lmao
[Red_Hot] 4:42 pm: grrr i hate my phone... lmao
[Dethas] 4:42 pm: well folks, look slike I missed the main chat, so I'll head off and hope to see you all soon
[Dethas] 4:42 pm: take care everyone
[EWWlex362c] 4:42 pm: That's what I was told to do when cleansing crystals
[Inkky] 4:42 pm: for me i ground by placing my hands and knees on the ground and visualize the excess energies going into the earth so the nature can do what she needs to do with it
[Alba Creag] 4:42 pm: talk again soon dethas
[EWWlex362c] 4:42 pm: BB Dethas
[Alba Creag] 4:42 pm: M
[Inkky] 4:43 pm: take care dethas ((hugs)) and loves Blesed Be hun
[Alba Creag] 4:43 pm: MY P is still sticky
[Red_Hot] 4:43 pm: bye hun... sorry i missed you comming in
[sea willow] 4:43 pm: OK like now when I am writing I can feel all the blood going downward or likejust feel a draining sensation
[Inkky] 4:44 pm: brb
[Red_Hot] 4:44 pm: ok...
[EWWlex362c] 4:45 pm: ok.....
[hazeleyes] 4:45 pm: confuzzled and more frusterated than ever b4
[misstay71] 4:45 pm: hb inkky
[sea willow] 4:45 pm: LOL Hazel. Me to
[Inkky] 4:45 pm: ok back now
[EWWlex362c] 4:45 pm: about what?
[Red_Hot] 4:45 pm: wb
[misstay71] 4:45 pm: wb
[EWWlex362c] 4:45 pm: mm vellum
[sea willow] 4:45 pm: MM Vellum
[hazeleyes] 4:45 pm: wb vellum
[Alba Creag] 4:45 pm: ello vellum
[misstay71] 4:45 pm: mm VELLUM
[Inkky] 4:45 pm: Hiya Vellum ((hugs))
[Vellum] 4:45 pm: mm all
[misstay71] 4:46 pm: how is everyone there vellum ?
[Vellum] 4:47 pm: as well as to be exspected sweety
[storm weever] 4:47 pm: has any one tride meditating with mirrors,
[Red_Hot] 4:47 pm: hi vellum
[misstay71] 4:47 pm: no storm
[Inkky] 4:47 pm: I have never tried that storm
[sea willow] 4:47 pm: Gotta run all. Thank you for your help and I am so happy to be here.
[EWWlex362c] 4:47 pm: no...but it sounds cool.....how do you do it?
[misstay71] 4:47 pm: tell W&W and the kids hi and i love them
[misstay71] 4:47 pm: mp and bb sea willow
[Vellum] 4:47 pm: just waiting is killing me
[EWWlex362c] 4:47 pm: MP sea willow
[Alba Creag] 4:47 pm: MP sea willow
[misstay71] 4:48 pm: i know
[Inkky] 4:48 pm: take care seawillow ((hugs)) and loves Blessed Be
[Vellum] 4:48 pm: bb and mp Sea willow
[EWWlex362c] 4:48 pm: mm carrie
[sea willow] 4:48 pm: Blessed be Dear ones and much love....:kiss:
[EWWlex362c] 4:49 pm: Aaawwwww!
[EWWlex362c] 4:49 pm: mm larc
[hazeleyes] 4:49 pm: mp bb sea willow
[misstay71] 4:49 pm: so how do you do that with the mirrors ?
[EWWlex362c] 4:49 pm: yeah...what about the mirrors?
[carriee] 4:49 pm: hello
[Inkky] 4:49 pm: Hiya carriee ((hugs))
[Alba Creag] 4:49 pm: mm Carriee
[Alba Creag] 4:49 pm: mm Larc
[misstay71] 4:50 pm: mm larc
[Red_Hot] 4:50 pm: hi carriee
[Inkky] 4:50 pm: Hiya larc ((hugs))
[Red_Hot] 4:50 pm: hi larc
[larc] 4:50 pm: MM To All
[misstay71] 4:50 pm: mm carrie
[carriee] 4:50 pm: hello all
[Vellum] 4:50 pm: mm carriee and larc
[Alba Creag] 4:50 pm: did I miss somthing about mirrors when i was away ??
[EWWlex362c] 4:50 pm: I'm dyin over here....the mirrors.......how about the mirrors?
[carriee] 4:50 pm: what are mirrors??
[EWWlex362c] 4:51 pm: AAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!
[misstay71] 4:51 pm: lol
[Vellum] 4:51 pm: some one please explian
[Vellum] 4:51 pm: I think I'm lost
[EWWlex362c] 4:51 pm: Inkky.........HEEEEELP!!!!!
[Alba Creag] 4:51 pm: mee three need a` map
[larc] 4:52 pm: I know i'm lost
[misstay71] 4:52 pm: storm explain please
[Inkky] 4:52 pm: storm weever had asked if people meditate with mirrors and people just asked storm how this was done
[carriee] 4:52 pm: ok ty
[Red_Hot] 4:52 pm: ok guys... im going to go for a bit... i will be back on later...
[misstay71] 4:52 pm: stormmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[EWWlex362c] 4:52 pm: OK, so how is it done? Inquiring minds want to know...
[Red_Hot] 4:52 pm: love and huggs to you all
[storm weever] 4:52 pm: you sit in front of a big mirror in a dark room whith two candals on eather side and stair directly at your self , you will be surpried a what you see after just a few mins
[Alba Creag] 4:52 pm: i can only think of one way with a mirror and that is to watch the reflection of a candle
[Vellum] 4:52 pm: ok bb and mp Red
[Inkky] 4:53 pm: take care Red ((hugs)) and loves Blessed Be
[EWWlex362c] 4:53 pm: Thank you.......what a relief!
[Alba Creag] 4:53 pm: by LJ (( HUGGLES))
[Inkky] 4:53 pm: Storm that sounds like a great way to meditate
[Red_Hot] 4:53 pm: bye xxx
[EWWlex362c] 4:53 pm: It does sound like a great way!
[misstay71] 4:54 pm: mp and bb red
[larc] 4:54 pm: bye red
[Alba Creag] 4:54 pm: be carefull not to burn yourself as I did when I used a mirror and candle singed eyebrow
[Inkky] 4:55 pm: so do we have any more meditation questions or just questions in general?
[EWWlex362c] 4:55 pm: Do you have to get really close to the mirror?
[Vellum] 4:55 pm: I haven't heard of using Mirrors for meditation, but it may be conected to scrying
[Vellum] 4:55 pm: which is a divination teckneek
[Alba Creag] 4:55 pm: I was too close to it
[misstay71] 4:55 pm: is there a lesson to teach you scrying ?
[EWWlex362c] 4:56 pm: Didn't scrying get mentioned in one of the first lessons for wicca revealed?
[misstay71] 4:56 pm: mm hazel
[EWWlex362c] 4:56 pm: I know I've read something about it, but can't remember exactly from where.
[hazeleyes] 4:57 pm: MM and thx
[storm weever] 4:57 pm: ino about 3 foot away with the candals the same on the sides so you can just see them in the mirror
[misstay71] 4:57 pm: yw
[EWWlex362c] 4:57 pm: mm little bear
[Inkky] 4:57 pm: In the advanced wicca lessons it is mentioned also
[larc] 4:57 pm: mm little bear
[EWWlex362c] 4:57 pm: welcome back hazel
[carriee] 4:57 pm: hello little bear
[hazeleyes] 4:58 pm: thx finally the computer works for me again
[misstay71] 4:58 pm: yahh
[EWWlex362c] 4:58 pm: Hmmm....then I can look foward to reading about it again!;)
[Vellum] 4:58 pm: unfortunatly not Misstay but you might like to have a look in the Divine Divination thread
[misstay71] 4:58 pm: i will
[Vellum] 4:58 pm: mm little bear
[Inkky] 4:58 pm: I think it is mentioned in the first lesson of advanced wicca if memory serves lol
[Inkky->hazeleyes] 4:58 pm: it sounds like it babe
[EWWlex362c] 4:59 pm: I will be on the look-out for it!
[Inkky] 4:59 pm: misstay you can also do an internet search on scrying and see what you can find
[misstay71] 4:59 pm: i will
[misstay71] 4:59 pm: ty
[EWWlex362c] 5:00 pm: I think I remember that scrying can be physically draining...or something like that.
[Vellum] 5:00 pm: thanks ink, now all I have to do is get a life time membership:D
[Inkky] 5:00 pm: scrying is something I have never tried
[Inkky] 5:00 pm:
[misstay71] 5:00 pm: lol me too vellum
[Alba Creag] 5:00 pm: same here innkky and vellum
[carriee] 5:01 pm: same here Vellum
[Inkky] 5:01 pm: Vellum does W&W not have the Advanced wicca lessons that you can atleast look at
[larc] 5:01 pm: me too
[carriee] 5:01 pm: right now i am yearly membership
[EWWlex362c] 5:02 pm: What is W & W?
[Inkky] 5:02 pm: W&W is witchcraftandwizardry
[Alba Creag] 5:02 pm: his beloved
[hazeleyes] 5:02 pm: the other nuttjob here
[Vellum] 5:02 pm: I think so, but you know how she is, she doesn't want me to get to know more than she...lol
[Inkky] 5:02 pm: and she is Vellums other half
[Vellum] 5:02 pm: Only kidding
[misstay71] 5:02 pm: lol
[EWWlex362c] 5:02 pm: Ah HAH!
[Inkky] 5:03 pm: lol no you werent Vellum lmao :whistle:
[hazeleyes] 5:03 pm: im not she really is bonkers
[Vellum] 5:03 pm: yes she keeps me grounded when I get of track some times
[Inkky] 5:04 pm: as all of us great women do lmao
[carriee] 5:04 pm: lol
[Alba Creag] 5:04 pm: :whistle:
[misstay71] 5:04 pm: lol
[EWWlex362c] 5:04 pm: lol
[Inkky] 5:04 pm: says HUSH now creag lmao
[EWWlex362c] 5:05 pm: mm saraswati
[Vellum] 5:05 pm: sorry Hazeleyes, maybe that is because of my infloence
[larc] 5:05 pm: mm saraswati
[carriee] 5:05 pm: hello saraswati
[misstay71] 5:05 pm: mm sara
[Inkky] 5:05 pm: Hiya Saraswati ((hugs))
[Alba Creag] 5:05 pm: mm sara
[hazeleyes] 5:06 pm: dont know but its hard to find someone around my lvl of bonkers
[EWWlex362c] 5:06 pm: infloence? is that like insolence?
[Saraswati:.] 5:06 pm: hello...
[Saraswati:.] 5:06 pm: Hi there...
[Saraswati:.] 5:06 pm: ups..!
[Vellum] 5:06 pm: mm Saraswati
[Inkky] 5:06 pm: lol hazel you found me and still dont know how to handle me yet LMAO
[Inkky] 5:06 pm:
[Saraswati:.] 5:06 pm: hi
[carriee] 5:06 pm: brb in a bit
[Saraswati:.] 5:06 pm: this is more like it... jeje
[hazeleyes] 5:06 pm: oh yes i do hun
[misstay71] 5:06 pm: can anyone handle you inkky lol
[Inkky] 5:06 pm: ummmm NO lol
[EWWlex362c] 5:07 pm: lol
[carriee] 5:07 pm: nice meeting you all tc
[hazeleyes] 5:07 pm: throw you a ball of yarn and let you play LOL
[Saraswati:.] 5:07 pm: nice meeting you all
[misstay71] 5:07 pm: mp and bb carrie
[Alba Creag] 5:07 pm: :whistle: again
[Inkky] 5:07 pm: LOL that might keep me quiet for a micro second lol
[Saraswati:.] 5:07 pm: it´s freezing here in Barcelona...
[larc] 5:07 pm: same
[Saraswati:.] 5:08 pm: mmm...
[EWWlex362c] 5:08 pm: it's raining here
[Inkky] 5:08 pm: it is wanting to rain here lol
[Saraswati:.] 5:08 pm: I am kind of new around here...
[Vellum] 5:08 pm: you couldn't keep that quiet for that long Ink...lol:p
[Saraswati:.] 5:08 pm: Dont know any of you...
[Alba Creag] 5:08 pm: its dark windy and cold here
[EWWlex362c] 5:08 pm: well....you've come to the right place!
[Inkky] 5:08 pm: well welcome Sara
[misstay71] 5:08 pm: ugh my computer is being stuiped
[Saraswati:.] 5:08 pm: thanks..!
[Inkky] 5:09 pm: LOL I know it Vellum lol quiet is BORING and NO FUN lmao
[misstay71] 5:09 pm:
[Saraswati:.] 5:09 pm: inkky!
[larc] 5:09 pm: I know nobody but find all very nice
[Inkky] 5:09 pm: yes Sara
[Saraswati:.] 5:09 pm: thanks...
[Saraswati:.] 5:09 pm: and I would like to know...
[misstay71] 5:09 pm: wb hazel
[Vellum] 5:09 pm: Welcome to the group and Magicka Sara
[larc] 5:09 pm: wb hazel
[Inkky] 5:09 pm: wb hazel dont make me duct tape u to the chair lmao
[hazeleyes] 5:09 pm: thx
[Saraswati:.] 5:10 pm: how did you spend last halloween..?
[hazeleyes] 5:10 pm: ill knaw my way through the ducttape
[Alba Creag] 5:10 pm: Inkky is nice ut shes verey very nice when you bribe here with chocolate
[misstay71] 5:10 pm: lol
[hazeleyes] 5:10 pm: and start hitting you with a marshmellow hammer for trying
[EWWlex362c] 5:10 pm: I cast a circle and did a really great meditation
[Saraswati:.] 5:11 pm: ewwlex
[EWWlex362c] 5:11 pm: yes?
[Vellum] 5:11 pm: Inky, I think that Alba Creag know you to well...lol
[Saraswati:.] 5:11 pm: were you alone? or in a group...? do you mind me asking? I am just curious...
[EWWlex362c] 5:11 pm: I was alone
[misstay71] 5:11 pm: i was at my neighbors house
[Saraswati:.] 5:11 pm: You know...
[Inkky] 5:11 pm: lol yes he does tis cause we ae both scottish born lol
[Inkky] 5:12 pm: are*
[misstay71] 5:12 pm: lol
[hazeleyes] 5:12 pm: GO SCOTS
[Saraswati:.] 5:12 pm: It is been close to 5 years since a discover the craft
[Saraswati:.] 5:12 pm: and
[Vellum] 5:12 pm: Although I am in the southern Hemisphere we had a great Halloween, It was my daughters birthday...lol
[EWWlex362c] 5:13 pm: I'm part Scottish too.
[Saraswati:.] 5:13 pm: yes?
[Alba Creag] 5:13 pm: (( its the accent all the time )):D
[Vellum] 5:13 pm: Not saying that this is a bad thing at all
[EWWlex362c] 5:13 pm: My brother's birthday is on Halloweeen.
[Inkky] 5:13 pm: and the kilts dont forget the kilts hun lol
[Saraswati:.] 5:13 pm: your daughters b-day?
[Alba Creag] 5:13 pm: very true
[EWWlex362c] 5:14 pm: I just joined a bagpipe band, they issue the kilts!
[Inkky] 5:14 pm: it was also my best friends anniversary on halloween so we celebrated with HEAPS of seafood lol
[hazeleyes] 5:14 pm: making a family kilt
[Vellum] 5:14 pm: yes,so we had an extra reason to celibrate
[misstay71] 5:14 pm: yummy inkky
[EWWlex362c] 5:14 pm: I love seafood
[Vellum] 5:15 pm: were's mine Ink
[hazeleyes] 5:15 pm: i got to meet my clan during the scottish games at stone mountain GA
[Saraswati:.] 5:15 pm: I am vegetarian...
[EWWlex362c] 5:15 pm: sounds interesting hazel, there are quitre a few families now making their own kilts
[larc] 5:15 pm: MP All
[Vellum] 5:15 pm: you forgot about me
[Alba Creag] 5:15 pm: I had sea food well fish and chips from the chippy
[Inkky] 5:15 pm: yes it was very nummy we had crab legs, shrimp and crawdads with baked potatoes and corn on the cob
[misstay71] 5:15 pm: aww who could forget you vellum
[Inkky] 5:16 pm: well Vellum you need to talk to Chi about that she ate most of the left overs lol
[misstay71] 5:16 pm: mp and bb larc
[hazeleyes] 5:16 pm: not making my own kilt following a design from the familys kilt
[Inkky] 5:16 pm: take care larc ((hugs)) Blessed Be
[Scheduled chat room: MEDITATION CHAT STARTING SOON!!]: larc has left at 5:16 pm
[EWWlex362c] 5:16 pm: cool! I have tartans from both sides of the family
[Vellum] 5:16 pm: drats, missed out again:faint:
[misstay71] 5:16 pm: ooh i like everything but the crawdads inkky
[Inkky] 5:17 pm: yea i didnt like them either misstay lol it was the first time i tried them lol and the last lmao
[misstay71] 5:17 pm: lol
[hazeleyes] 5:17 pm: unfortuneitly only one side of the family here
[EWWlex362c] 5:17 pm: there need be only one
[hazeleyes] 5:18 pm: ehlo shiva
[EWWlex362c] 5:18 pm: mm shiva
[misstay71] 5:18 pm: mm shiva
[Shiva] 5:18 pm: MM everyone
[Inkky] 5:18 pm: Hiya shiva ((hugs))
[Vellum] 5:18 pm: Ok back to Meditation, were is your favourate starting point when you start meditating. If you have any
[Alba Creag] 5:18 pm: mm shiva
[Vellum] 5:19 pm: mm Shiva
[EWWlex362c] 5:19 pm: The breathing....it seems to signal my body and mind to relax
[misstay71] 5:19 pm: i do my breathing to help get me started
[Shiva] 5:19 pm: Same here on the breathing. Otherwise I don't do well or concentrate.
[Vellum] 5:19 pm: When I start to meditate I usually focus on a view point
[misstay71] 5:20 pm: i close my eyes and do my breathing
[EWWlex362c] 5:20 pm: mm tigergnome
[misstay71] 5:20 pm: mm tiger
[Inkky] 5:20 pm: Hiya Gnomeeeeeee ((((hugs))))
[TigerGnome] 5:20 pm: mm all!
[Shiva] 5:20 pm: Time of day has something to do with it, too. MM Tiger.
[Vellum] 5:20 pm: it is a lush grean area with a brook ranning threw it and the sun shinning down
[Alba Creag] 5:20 pm: I dont have one I can quite quickly get into it but I always use a candle to get me focused
[TigerGnome] 5:21 pm: is this a scheduled chat?
[misstay71] 5:21 pm: yes tiger
[EWWlex362c] 5:21 pm: yes....candles help alot!
[misstay71] 5:21 pm: i seem to do better at night
[Vellum] 5:21 pm: air is gently brushing the trees and I sit down on a log
[TigerGnome] 5:21 pm: ah okay....so what are we currently discussing?
[EWWlex362c] 5:21 pm: meditation
[Alba Creag] 5:21 pm: I can never meditate sitting I always have to be lying doon
[misstay71] 5:22 pm: how you start off your meditation
[Shiva] 5:22 pm: Late Night works best for me. It's when the day's rush has ended.
[Vellum] 5:22 pm: mm tigergnome
[EWWlex362c] 5:22 pm: I run the risk of falling aslepp when i lay down
[misstay71] 5:22 pm: me too eww
[hazeleyes] 5:22 pm: MM tigergnome
[Shiva] 5:22 pm:
Not with me.
[TigerGnome] 5:23 pm: i like meditating in the mornings...that way i can carry the peaceful feeling throughout my whole day
[Alba Creag] 5:23 pm: I cany sleep till my meds kick in so lying hels me to relax
[EWWlex362c] 5:23 pm: If only I could multitask in the morning!
[Alba Creag] 5:23 pm: *helps
[Inkky] 5:23 pm: well guys I shall have to away now as dinner is ready and I be hungry
thank you all for the awesome chat and once I have edited it all either myself or Chi will post it in chatterbox ((hugs)) and loves to all Blessed be
is their anyway that somebody could e-mail me the chat so i don't miss out please?
