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the long term effects of an industry focused on war efforts?

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Not sure I understand what you mean here? Could you elaborate a bit?
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This is a really good explanation. The only beef I have with this is that it doesn't even begin to offer a solution.

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So what is the solution to that? Extend the wars and start some new ones to keep the service people from being unemployed? I hope not...

Seriously, what do you all think could be done to create more jobs?

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I think education is the key to more jobs. Today's world has changed so much. Factory work, manual work, machining jobs, and so many other jobs aren't options anymore. Many bussinesses need to reinvent themselves and we need to educate ourselves and our children for the modern world. I know that this has nothing to do with taxes or finances like many people will look at on this thread and like many politicians preach about. But to me, this is my number one issue. Even though my husband is one of the 99ers they speak about in this article and is desperate for a job. We both still watch our son take so many hits and have had to jump through so many hoops because of all of the cuts made to education and it is so sad. We want him to have the best education possible and he just isn't getting it right now, even though he is in kindergarten. We have him on the waiting lists to get into charter schools and hope he makes the lottery next year, but in the mean time we have to teach him at his grade level at home so he excells and doesn't get behind. I've already watched him get lazy on his math at school. On the worksheets he gets where he has to write his numbers, on the back side he has to circle the groups of pictures with however many is the number he just wrote (I.E. he has to count...that's what he is supposed to be learning) and he circles random pictures. Now, my son can add. He knows all of his addition tables and is learning to subtract. He does it because he's bored. Its not right that he's not being taught at his level. Or that his teacher isn't noticing that he's getting lazy.

Anyway, that's my rant.

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Sequoia Mist what I mean by that is that over the past 10 years give or take the US has been involved in war (for the sake of argument lets set aside the definition of war). This means that government spending on both levels, the actual spending on products but also grants for research, services etc have been focused on companies that enhance the war effort. The issue with that this spending has no direct benefit to the civil society and does not help increase consumer spending. Further resources are pulled into military research rather than civilian research draining intelligence from society hindering overall progress. In turn companies may have to import civilian goods from other countries as this country does not keep up with scientific progress again draining funds from this society.

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Agreed, although I see this more as a long-term strategy that won't fix the unemployment situation in the short term. And it still leaves the question what to do with the folks who are unable or unwilling to work in the high-education jobs. Let's face it, not everyone is made to be a rocket scientist and many people would be very unhappy being stuck in front of a compurter or in a lab all day, even if they have the intellectual capacity.

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Intersting point and I agree partially. Definitely the research capacity could be better used elsewhere although civilian applications often result from originally military research.

I disagree with you on the point that this would not increase consumer spending. I believe the salaries/wages earned in the defense industry are a major contribution to the US consumer spending. I don't think that all these employees and contractors could be used elsewhere, at least not in the short term. Also, I think the defense industry is more immune to outsourcing and importation than other manufacturing for obvious security reasons, thus keeping more jobs in the US. Case in point, I work for a large company that has some service contracts with the Defense Dept and I as a legal resident but not US citizen can't even work as a financial analyst for the groups that deliver on these contracts.

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you are right and I should have clarified what I meant by incentive to spend: the war industry does not produce any goods interesting for the society as a whole to spend their money on so those goods come from somewhere else, mainly China as of late

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