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"Think of the solution not the problem" is a tad bit unrealistic for me, but this is in my own opinion. How can one provide a fitting solution without first completely knowing and contemplating the problem?

I tend to side with Lindsay in the importance on knowing the problem. However, I do also agree with Katherine that wallowing in the problem is pointless and counterproductive.

Perhaps a more fitting mantra would be "Work towards a solution, keep the problem in mind..." Once again though, that is only my opinion.

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I think it is implied that one must be aware of the problem in order to think of a solution. In the book, the quote was always given after one or more of the characters said something like, "That's impossible!" or "It can't be done." It was meant in the spirit of not letting the magnitude or difficulty of a problem overwhelm the effort to solve it. Kind of what everyone has been saying. 8)

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I agree Amaranth it is implied, but some people are optimists to the point of being unrealistic... Expecting a solution to manifest because everything HAS to be alright, rather than examining weaknesses and exploring different solutions. I suppose Im just advocating a more proactive approach, at least in the way we think of problems :)

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Nice one Amaranth! Yes, Jas, no wallowing is allowed in my book!!! Once you have recognized a problem and decided that you want something better it seems as though you don't have to keep revisiting the problem though...The act of recognizing it, really recognizing it and really deciding to change it starts your journey to a solution. It's kind of like knowing where you are and where you want to be and just moving toward a goal. I understand the analytical need to understand the problem completely, but truly believe that understanding the goal is far, far more important. Just my opinion.

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Obama is a puppet. He is handsome and articulate and reads a teleprompter well.

He makes it look like he is helping people but he is intentionally running the American economy into the ground as his handlers direct him to.

He has an incredibly shady past that includes the murder of his gay lover and the threat of murder to another gay lover, taking money that was designed for the education of children in South Chicago and using it for his political campaign, and taking some of that money and starting ACORN which is a criminal enterprise.

Someone with deep pockets is backing Obama since he or someone has spent over a million dollars on legal fees blocking any attempt to view the long form of his birth certificate. He has more evidence linking him as a British and Kenyan citizen than an American citizen.

I could go on and on about this guy.

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Those are some really strong accusations, how do you back them up?? Ive never herd any of this.
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Daphnis wrote:
[ and taking some of that money and starting ACORN which is a criminal enterprise.


Sorry, but to state that ACORN is a criminal enterprise is a fallacy.

ACORN stands for Association of Community Organisations for Reform Now, it is an organisation that seeks to better the lives of less advantaged peoples and organises recruitment drives to enroll people to vote, so that elections represent the wishes of the whole community, not just those with a political axe to grind.

ACORN was being investigated by the FBI for some instances of voter registration fraud which ACORN itself does admit sometimes happens. Occassionally they will have a worker who turns in phoney voter registrations to fill a quota, rather than going out and actually doing the work ..... a problem common to any organisation unfortunately.

Barack Obama did not start ACORN, which was started way back in 1970 by Wade Rathke. Gary Delgado and George A. Wiley . Obama was not an ACORN community organiser, nor was he employed in any capacity by ACORN. He did represent them as an attorney along with the US Dept of justice to force Illinois into compliance with state voting laws.

Barack Obama did organise "project vote" in 1992. John McCain claimed that project vote was "an arm of ACORN" but this was proven false. Whilst the two organisations had similar ideals and worked together during the election runup, they are two entirely seperate organisations.

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Daphnis are you saying that there is compelling criminal evidence against the president of the United States to have committed murder and conspired to commit murder in another case? If so please lets hear it, if not I would think you are walking on rather thin ice.

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Honestly, heresay isn't plausible with such accusations such as the ones you've mentioned Daphnis. If you do have some support for your comments, please do share.


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I too would love to see some evidence to support these claims - some proof that these aren't just accusations made to sully an opposing party...

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me too!! ima go google that now.....

found some links, im adding them here BUT that doesnt mean i believe them!!!! im just adding for the conversations sake etc...

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/ ... speaks-up/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFG8B0wBIWw

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 540783/pg1

I must add here that this info seems to come from super christiany sites~the kind of sites that border on fanatical etc....
and hey, who cares if he was gay b4, i think it'd make him less judgemental and more fair in his role as president. i truly dont think he is a murderer~im not a pro, but im a psychometrist and clair~empath and i have never sensed that about him ever!

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Yes, these are VERY strong accusations. I didn't even hear accusations this bad from non-obama supporters when I was working on his campain. And believe me I heard all the dirt. Some true some false. I know a LOT about this man good and bad because it was my JOB for two years. I have met his wife and I have met him and in my opinion they are truly in love and have a very strong family bond to say he murdered gay lovers is just rediculous! Obama is not gay. I laughed when I read that. Do your research before you start making accusations please.

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Wow. I do love a good conspiracy theory, but just reading the comments on that blog tell me that it just seems to be bigots (and other sorts of very un-educated folk) that come up with this stuff.

Makes me appreciate the very grey politicians we have here in the UK. A scandal here is using goverment expenses to buy your ducks a house (disclaimer: I have no idea if those ducks are gay/have been murdered).

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Daisy Eryma wrote:
Wow. I do love a good conspiracy theory, but just reading the comments on that blog tell me that it just seems to be bigots (and other sorts of very un-educated folk) that come up with this stuff.

Makes me appreciate the very grey politicians we have here in the UK. A scandal here is using goverment expenses to buy your ducks a house (disclaimer: I have no idea if those ducks are gay/have been murdered).


:D much needed comic relief, thanks Daisy

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